I load from 120gr to 160gr. However, you gave me an insight about other things the cartridge might be useful for and should be dependable in (such as weather conditions), I will send u one when I get home im in wyoming now elk deer antalope hunting, will be here up to 8 days , sure hope it is as good to us as new mexico, colorado have been, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. not too bad eh? Better ballistics and accuracy compared to most .50 cal alternatives and a much lighter rifle. Re: .338 Win Mag v.s. lucky guy you are. What ammo do u load in ur .338 from Christensen? The 338 Lapua is a better round, but the availability and cost of both the rifles and ammo are too high. 338 Lapua Long-Range Cartridges ... 300 Winchester Magnum or just Win-Mag ... and its performance even at ranges well beyond 1000 yards. The .338 Win. The 338 Winchester Magnum is arguably the best. I want a rifle that's long range, i wont be shooting more than 1000 yards, but also an all round rifle that's all round because i will be going big game hunting, including some big brownies. I heard their barrels have really bad reviews? Range yards: im not sure if i want to go for it? I'm already saving up for a custom rifle, i have 3000 saved from the past 2 years. Sure the 338 is just a tiny bit wider and the bullet is just a tiny bit bigger, but does that really make a lot of difference?” If you were to ask a deer shot at typical distances of 100-200 meters, the answer would be a definitive NO. A hunter must really want to shoot an elk at 800 yards to consider anything above the .338 Win. The .338WM stretches that to 500 yards w/ a 180gr bullet. The ballistic performances based off of four grain type muzzle velocities are 2,95… I have a custom built 1000 yard rifle chambered in .30-338. .338 Lapua Magnum My 250 Scenars are leaving my Lapua at about 3050 and good luck getting a 250 to 2800 from a 338 Win Mag without creating yourself some issues. Due to its flat trajectory, .300 Win Mag can shoot out to 1500+ meters, while 6.5 Creedmoor is limited to closer to 1200 meters. 300 grain Sierra Match King, C1 BC = .800, 100 yard zero, sea-level atmosphere muzzle velocity of 3000 fps. Ever since the advent of the first metallic cartridge (the 22 BB Cap in 1845,) hunters have demanded rifles, cartridges and bullets capable of terminating everything from ground squirrels to elephants. Reloading for the 7mm Rem Mag can be very cost effective. In order to match the BC of the 7mm Rem Mag you have to go up to about a 210 grain bullet and still be pushing the same velocity. is a good choice also. I practice as I hunt. Unlike the.338 Lapua, the.338 Win Mag is capable of being chambered in some of the most popular bolt action and semi auto hunting rifles out there. > i am comfortable shooting 338 win mags at around 500 yards as of now i use my friends 338. Covers most game in the CONUS. The .338 RUM was the only caliber that qualified for the most extreme scenario (1,000 pound game at 300 yards), thus it had no competition in that scenario. 338 Win Mag – the Ultimate Elk Round Many centerfire rifle cartridges are effective on elk. The case if based off of the .375 H&H Magnum by expanding the body and narrowing down the neck to fit a .338 bullet. However, within 1000 meters, 6.5 Creedmoor is likely more accurate than .300 Win Mag, when using comparable weapons and ammunition. I've shot the .338 Lapua out to 1200 yards and it would be tough to beat but again the only two short comings that I see is the cost of the components and recoil. And # muzzle velocities can be within 50 fps of a .300 Win. Federal decided to get into the 338 game also, and presto, here we are. And once we get out to the 1,000 yard mark, the .338 LM has actually lost less altitude than the .300 Win Mag round. The .338 Win. Muliemaster! I like the 7mm because of the long range, while i like the 338 win mag for the power. I've shot a customers gun several times in .300 Win… Brass is not a problem at all,as a matter of fact, you can get Norma brass in .308 Norma magnum. B) I do not know if this cartrige has legs or not [*] some might extend this to 1000 yards, but almost all will agree that by 1050 yards its time for a bigger load. I get as close as I can. Why 1000 yards? Even at a distance of 500 yards, all rounds are supersonic with velocities well above 2,000ft.s. When you look at the two cartridges together, you think to yourself, “well that’s not that far off. We have seen that the .338LM has excellent ballistic coefficients and we also saw that it maintained its velocity at a higher rate than the .300 Win Mag rounds. Also, just for fun, what kind of trajectory are we looking at with the .338 WM compared to the .300, .308, and the .338 RUM? Probably a moot point since I am having a 30-338 built, but I was curious if there was a consensus one way or the other. The 6.5 Creedmoor is also touted as a long range big game caliber like the 300 Win Mag. I use a 300 win mag as of now, i've shot the 338 win mags, the recoil isn't a big deal at all. If this is your first visit, be sure to Amazing shooting — that’s how we’d describe what Ed Connors accomplished recently with his Speedy-built .338 Lapua Magnum LR rifle. On the other hand a heavier rifle for 1000 bench shouldn't be an issue even with free recoil: 45 lb heavy BR rifle: 300 win mag AI 210 vld at 2900 6.34 ft/lb 338 win mag 250 vld at 2800 6.87 338 win mag 300 vld at 2600 7.91 Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by 94browninghunt, Nov 11, 2011. All chamberings are built around the … Later, Frank Bartlein Barrels Nate, The .300 Win. I have heard of 168 grain but am unsure of its impact beyond 500 yards. 7 mag 9 1/3 ft/lb. with the same # barrel length, bore, groove and chamber dimensions as well as the same # peak pressure. 7mm Rem Mag is a VG hunting round. Glockcurmudgeon- i didnt mean the all round cartrdige, regarding self defense/protection, i just meant it as an all round hunting cartridge. Cartridge Type: RifleHeight: 2.5\"Width: 0.532\"Average FPS: 2819Average Energy: 3916Average Gr: 222Recoil: 2.93Power Rank: 6.26 of 20 The .338 Winchester Magnum was designed in 1958 by Winchester Repeating Arms Company. What grain round would have the best impact at about 1000 yards? Consider upgrading your membership for less than a box of bullets! While i know both those will do well for North American big game. Extended Ballistics: The .338 Lapua Magnum, 250-Grain BTHP Match Round. While i know both those will do well for North American big game. I own a Weatherby Vanguard .338 Win Mag. From the 300 to 500 yards, the .300 Win Mag has a slight advantage, but again, it is less than 100fps. check out the. More inexpensive ammo, more standard rifles, no muzzlebrake required, and still enough energy to kill anything you need to. Ed Connors placed three consecutive shots all on target at 2160 yards for a sub-3/8 MOA group. About noon I hiked along the edge of a timbered draw toward another vantage point. I have been told that the 30-338 is more efficient and may have a tad more accuracy potential, albeit slightly slower. My goal is a long range hunting and target (500 yards routine, 1000 yards occasionally) rifle. At 1000 yards this translates to an extra 20 inches of drop and 10 inches more drift in a 10 mph cross wind for the 300 Win Mag. Mag. The shorter neck on the WIN MAG means NOTHING!Everything is availible for the WinMag with out paying for custom,plus you have a nice selection of brass.The Win Mag is every bit as accurate as a 30-338! how much did your 338 win mag from CA cost you? 1000 yards is target rifle territory, not hunting rifle. The .338 Winchester Magnum is a popular and powerful caliber designed as a hunting round. can i see a picture of ur 338 wm? Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. I don't know where Shooting Times got their numbers from but that is in no way an accurate comparison. Ed nailed a 3-shot group at 2160 yards that would be great at 1000 yards. We work hard to bring the best Firearms Forum! What are the pro's and con's (if any) between these two rounds. Mag. Wounding is violent and in many instances spectacular down to impact velocities of 1400fps, a truly outstanding premium bullet design. Maximum effective range is out to 1,200 yards, and the round really comes into its own at 800 to 1,000. Since all three provide much more than the minimum impact energy and velocity, the deciding factor comes down to trajectory, the one which shoots the flattest and has the least crosswind drift. After all, the .300 Win Mag is a rifle that has become known for its versatility and precision; hard hitting power and its accuracy. and you said how Christensen makes long range thumpers in your other post, is ur 338 that kind? One of the advantages of the 300 Winchester Magnum is that it can be loaded in a long-rifle action rather than a more expensive Magnum receiver. Recently it has been surpassed by the much larger and much heavier .338 Lapua Magnum round as a military and law enforcement favorite, but … I like the 7mm because of the long range, while i like the 338 win mag for the power. 338 win mag 14 ft/lb I guess if 9 ft/lb beats you up with 22 rounds then it is too much for F class. Mag, the “softest” here, slaps the shooter as hard as a .375 H&H Magnum, while the .338-378 and .338 Lapua are close to .416 Rigby territory. ... .338 Win. but when apples to apples are compared and true drops are formulated out to and past a 1000 yards not readings from a chrono then the real numbers shine and … Does anyone have hard data on this? Really considering the CA's! A box of 20 costs me about $10.00 w/ a premium bullet. if so whats ur longest range you've shot? Thank you for all the information. That is why it is hunting, not using game as targets. However, a .338 Win Mag without a scope is missing out. Since this article is focused on the hunting applications of the three cartridges, I did not include any data past 500 yards, but all of them (the .338 Lapua in particular) continue to perform well at even longer range. I use a 300 win mag as of now, i've shot the 338 win mags, the recoil isn't a big deal at all. These rounds do have one mission they are ideal for, though: Alaskan brown bears. Barrel Lengths in the 338/378 Weatherby Magnum January 23, ... ballistics program we’ll start the big Sierra at 3000 fps and 3200 fps and compare the already mentioned values at 1000 yards, 1500 yards and 2000 yards. I still have 600..700 bullets of different flavors that I can load. These bullets maximize the effective range of the .338 Winchester Magnum, boasting immensely high BC’s of .773 and .846 respectively, allowing for shots to be taken well beyond 1000 yards. is an accurate cartridge, shown by this group fired with Swift 225-gr. Check out the target above. are you completely ahppy with every part of the rifle? This may seem like an odd comparison, but I cannot count the number of times I have been in a gun store listening to either the “gun guru” behind the counter, or the “expert sniper” on the other side talking about how the 6.5 Creedmoor is like a 300 Win Mag without the recoil. It shoots as good as any 300 Win that I have seen. ). Dam near identical and yes if you ramp the numbers in favor of the 28 it will look bad *** and yes the 28 is a bad *** round and stupid accurate but so is the 300 win. (250 Sp at 2700).473 +2.7" +1.4" 3"@126: 268.340 Wby. # # Military rifle teams all used the .30-.338 as their 1000-yard any-rifle # cartridge. Mag. But, on animals such as Elk, Great bear it is limited by the amount of energy it retains over distance. From the muzzle out to 200 yards, the .300 WMS has a slight advantage when looking at the averages though the difference is less than 100fps. Im thinking of buying a new rifle, and im all over the place! I've picked up Blemished Bullets (jacket color) from Midway as cheap as 17.00 per 100 and Barnes XFB when they changed the name to TSX for 17.00 per 50. In between the .30-06 and the .338 Win Mag, the .300 Win Mag ranked first in only two scenarios. Available in .25-06 Rem, 7mm Remington Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Remington Ultra Mag, and .30-06 Springfield, this rifle will satisfy your need for long-range shooting as well as perform exceptionally well in the field. Indeed, as powerful as the .300 Win Mag is, the .338 Lapua ELD-X load has almost as much kinetic energy at 500 yards as the .300 Win Mag AccuBond load has at 100 yards! Pros: extended range and energy carried downrange. Couldnt be h happier their barrels are exelent. A-Frame bullets. Yet, there is only one winner in any group, and only three cartridges in this test are reliable 1000-yard elk killers: the .300 Win Mag, .338 Win Mag, and .340 Weatherby. A 500 yard shot at game is not for the average hunter. Mag. Mag. $7.50 for standard cup and core. When it comes down to hunting, the answer is obvious; unless you’re doing your hunting at 1000 yards, the 338 Win mag is a better choice. Unlike most rifle cartridges, the trajectory stays level out to about 300 yards. by Major John L. Plaster, USA (ret) Lately I've done a lot of firing with my Savage 110BA, .338 Lapua Magnum rifle, taking on targets up to 1400 yards away. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Wow. Of course, the actual distance the bullet should hit above the point of aim at 100 yards (or 100 meters, which is about 108 yards) ... For the record, this table was calculated for an air temperature of 60 degrees F and an altitude of 1000 feet. same could be done by comparing it to the 300 ultra with a 230!! 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